Legislature(1997 - 1998)

02/11/1997 03:05 PM Senate HES

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        JOINT SENATE/HOUSE HEALTH, EDUCATION AND SOCIAL                        
                  SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE                                  
                       February 11, 1997                                       
                           3:05 p.m.                                           
                                                                               
                                                                               
  SENATE MEMBERS PRESENT                                                       
                                                                               
 Senator Gary Wilken, Chairman                                                 
 Senator Loren Leman, Vice Chairman                                            
 Senator Johnny Ellis                                                          
                                                                               
  SENATE MEMBERS ABSENT                                                        
                                                                               
 Senator Lyda Green                                                            
 Senator Jerry Ward                                                            
                                                                               
  HOUSE MEMBERS PRESENT                                                        
                                                                               
 Representative Con Bunde, Chairman                                            
 Representative Joe Green, Vice Chairman                                       
 Representative Al Vezey                                                       
 Representative Brian Porter                                                   
 Representative Fred Dyson                                                     
 Representative J. Allen Kemplen                                               
                                                                               
  HOUSE MEMBERS ABSENT                                                         
                                                                               
 Representative Tom Brice                                                      
                                                                               
  COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                           
                                                                               
 ALASKAN CHILDREN'S TRUST FUND UPDATE                                          
                                                                               
  WITNESS REGISTER                                                             
                                                                               
 ARLISS STURGULEWSKI                                                           
 7957 Sheldon Jackson                                                          
 Anchorage, Alaska  99508                                                      
 Telephone:  (907) 561-5286                                                    
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Presented update on the Alaska Children's              
                      Trust.                                                   
                                                                               
 MORRIS THOMPSON                                                               
 2008 Capitol Avenue                                                           
 Fairbanks, Alaska                                                             
 Telephone:  (907) 452-4955                                                    
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Presented update on the Alaska Children's              
                      Trust.                                                   
                                                                               
 CAROL H. BRICE, President                                                     
 Family Training Associates                                                    
 P.O. Box 81016                                                                
 Fairbanks, Alaska  99708                                                      
 Telephone:  (907) 479-7461                                                    
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Presented update on the Alaska Children's              
                      Trust                                                    
                                                                               
 KAREN PERDUE, Commissioner                                                    
 Department of Health and Social Services                                      
 P.O. Box 110601                                                               
 Juneau, Alaska  99811-0601                                                    
 Telephone:  (907) 465-3030                                                    
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Presented update on the Alaska Children's              
                      Trust.                                                   
                                                                               
  ACTION NARRATIVE                                                             
                                                                               
  TAPE 97-8, SIDE A                                                            
                                                                               
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  CHAIRMAN CON BUNDE  called the Joint House and Senate Health,                
 Education and Social Services Committee meeting to order at 3:05              
 p.m.  Senate members present at the call to order were Senators               
 Wilken, Ellis and Leman. Representative members present at the call           
 to order were Representatives Bunde, Green, Vezey, Porter, Kemplen            
 and Brice.  Representative Dyson joined the committee meeting at              
 3:13 p.m.  Senator Ward, Senator Green and Representative Brice               
 were absent.  A quorum was present.  This meeting was                         
 teleconferenced to Homer, Dillingham, Sitka, Fairbanks, Anchorage             
 and Kenai.                                                                    
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN BUNDE  said the Joint committee would receive an update on          
 the Alaska Children's Trust Fund and afterward the House committee            
 would address a subcommittee report on HB 54 and then address HB 1.           
                                                                               
 ALASKAN CHILDREN'S TRUST FUND UPDATE                                        
                                                                               
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  ARLISS STURGULEWSKI  said the members of the Alaska Children's Trust         
 were here today to ask for the committee's general support for                
 issues affecting children, not to make a specific request.  She               
 said members of the trust include; Carol H. Brice, Family Training            
 Associates; Morris Thompson, President and CEO of Doyon Limited;              
 Mark Williams, Alaska Children's Trust Chair, Vice-Chair of Carr              
 Gottstein Foods Company; Attorney General Bruce M. Botelho;                   
 Commissioner Shirley Holloway of the Department of Education; and             
 Commissioner Karen Perdue of the Department of Health and Social              
 Services.  She said Nila Rinehart serves half time as staff for the           
 Children's Cabinet and half time as staff for the Alaska Children's           
 Trust and that she was here at today's meeting.  She said it is               
 great to have Ms. Rinehart work in the two sectors because it gives           
 an inter-relationship between the various programs.                           
                                                                               
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  MS. STURGULEWSKI  said the Alaska Children's Trust was formed back           
 in 1988, but it had a quiet life as it had no money.  Last year $6            
 million was made available to the trust and is now being managed by           
 the Department of Revenue (DOR) with Wilson Condon acting as                  
 treasurer for the Alaska Children's Trust.  She said the                      
 legislation mandates, through the retention of capital, that the              
 fund be inflation-proof.  The method DOR is using in investing will           
 give the Alaska Children's Trust slightly better interest than the            
 rate of inflation.  She said the corpus of the trust will be                  
 available for expenditure.                                                    
                                                                               
  MS. STURGULEWSKI  said the primary purpose is to work in partnership         
 and collaboration with communities, private business and government           
 to reduce and prevent child abuse as well as promoting healthy                
 families and communities.  The Alaska Children's Trust will be                
 looking at collaborative efforts.  She said she would not go into             
 a lot of detail about the goals and how they were achieved, but               
 mentioned that a lot of thought was spent on what to do.  She said            
 the Alaska Children's Trust will be a year old in April and it has            
 taken a lot of time to get to this point.  The trust members were             
 careful as to selecting where the Alaska Children's Trust would be            
 heading and what they would do.                                               
                                                                               
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  MS. STURGULEWSKI  said currently under formation now, working for a          
 5013 status, is a group called the Friends of the Alaska Children's           
 Trust.  This group will be the major fundraising arm for the trust            
 and they have already received some private corporate grants;                 
 $50,000 in two year increments from Sohio and BP (Alaska) Inc.  She           
 said there is hope that this group will be able to raise major,               
 private funds from individuals, corporations and various endowment            
 trusts throughout the country.  This is an area where the                     
 legislature could assist the Alaska Children's Trust if there are             
 other additional funds that could be made available.  She said the            
 Alaska Children's Trust's budget will be proposed during this                 
 legislative session.  They are looking at $250,000 to $290,000                
 which will be put out in grants, but it will need action of the               
 legislative body as well as of the operating budget.                          
                                                                               
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  MORRIS THOMPSON , President and CEO, Doyon Limited, spoke briefly            
 about why we need the Alaska Children's Trust and cited some                  
 statistics.  He said these numbers were unfortunate, but very real            
 and need to be addressed by communities, by families, individuals,            
 by leaders and hopefully by the state.  He referred to a handout,             
 located in the committee file, titled, "Alaska Children's Trust,              
 Annual Report 1996."  He said in the three categories of physical,            
 sexual abuse and neglect the state of Alaska is so far out in front           
 that it is horrendous.  He read, "In children substantiated                   
 indicated reports of abuse and neglect, Alaska is 36.6 per thousand           
 children in the population.  The median is 14, the low is 2."                 
                                                                               
  MR. THOMPSON  said it is clear that this is a problem that needs to          
 be fixed by families, by communities, by citizens, by                         
 municipalities and by leaders.  He said every year 1,400 children             
 are arrested for offenses including assault, rape, robbery and drug           
 sales.  He said 2,200 children drop out of school and more than               
 10,000 preschoolers live below the poverty level.  Alaska leads the           
 nation in per capita cases of child sexual abuse and neglect.  He             
 said we must work collectively, hopefully with other agencies, to             
 reduce those numbers.  He said on social indicators, we do not want           
 to be constantly leading the nation in these areas.                           
                                                                               
                                                                               
  MR. THOMPSON  said thanks to the legislature there is $6 million in          
 the corpus to be managed by the DOR as a trust fund.                          
                                                                               
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  MS. STURGULEWSKI  mentioned that Robert Storer, the investment               
 officer for the DOR, was available to provide information on the              
 management of the trust fund.                                                 
                                                                               
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  CAROL H. BRICE , President, Family Training Associates, said she has         
 been involved in parenting issues for almost 15 years and added               
 that it is the toughest job in town with little training available.           
 She said she is excited about where the Alaska Children's Trust can           
 go and wanted to tell the committee where they are today and what             
 they see happening in the next couple of months.  By March 1, 1997,           
 the first proposal, the first request for proposal (RFP), the first           
 invitation for people to look carefully at what is going on in your           
 community, what do you see that might be a solution dealing with              
 issues related to children and whether you want to talk with the              
 Alaska Children's Trust about them will occur.  She said the                  
 proposal is only going to be ten pages long, which is very                    
 different from a lot of RFPs.                                                 
                                                                               
 Ms. Brice said Alaska Children's Trust hopes to reach out to the              
 smaller communities, to the people that are right there in the                
 community, who are able to say what is going on with their kids and           
 what they think might be able to be done to help.  If it is a small           
 project, the Alaska Children's Trust is willing to give anywhere              
 from $10,000 to $50,000 to support it.  She said the Alaska                   
 Children's Trust will have between $250,000 and $290,000 to award.            
 She said they expected to have the RFPs back by mid-May, take a               
 look at them, address the issues, consider them and by July 1,                
 1997, the trust will give their first awards.  She said the Alaska            
 Children's Trust is not in competition with the state and other               
 programs.  Hopefully the Alaska Children's Trust will be                      
 supplemental by looking at issues that have never been able to be             
 funded and help people think creatively about what can happen.                
                                                                               
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 Ms. Brice remembered, as an example, a situation that occurred when           
 she was serving on the Health and Social Services Commission in               
 Fairbanks a few years ago.  A young man came to their office and              
 said for almost a year he had been teaching school children boxing            
 in the Northrup Building.  He requested $10,000 to send some of               
 those kids to Juneau to compete in a boxing tournament.  It was a             
 very non-traditional proposal that he made, the paper work was not            
 adequate at all, but they went into session, considered it and gave           
 him his $10,000.  She said this is an example of somebody dealing,            
 in a practical way, with youth.  Youth that otherwise were on the             
 streets.  She said, today, that is an up and going organization               
 that has a lot of community support.                                          
                                                                               
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 Ms. Brice said the Alaska Children's Trust will not fund any                  
 program 100 percent.  They will fund it 75 percent the first year.            
 If they come back to the Alaska Children's Trust for a second year            
 with another level of their program that they want the trust to               
 consider, again the trust will fund 75 percent.  The third and                
 fourth year the funding is down to 50 percent and the fifth and               
 sixth year the funding is down to 25 percent.  She said there is              
 going to have to be collaboration, networking in the programs and             
 that the Alaska Children's Trust is not a give-away program.  She             
 said there are people out there doing good things and we need to              
 collaborate and build on services that are already being offered.             
                                                                               
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 Ms. Brice said, in her mind, children are the indicators of the               
 health of a community.  The statistics, Mr. Thompson referred to,             
 show us that we don't have a very healthy community and said it is            
 of great concern to her.  She hoped that when she came to Juneau in           
 succeeding years to talk about children's issues that when she                
 meets people in the hall they also are talking about children's               
 issues.                                                                       
                                                                               
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  MS. STURGULEWSKI  said the Alaska Children's Trust is on their way,          
 but want to keep in frequent communication with the legislature so            
 that it is known what is being done.  She said they don't want the            
 work of the Alaska Children's Trust duplicated in the                         
 Administration.  She said they'd like to see some innovative                  
 programs, people reaching out and finding ways to deal with some of           
 these issues.  She referred to articles in "Time", "U.S. News and             
 World Report" and said there is an explosion of what happens to               
 kids in that zero to two years of age.  She said these years                  
 determine what they are going to be intellectually for their life.            
                                                                               
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  CHAIRMAN BUNDE  thanked the witnesses and said the committee is              
 often faced with problems and challenges.  He said it is nice that            
 someone has taken the ball and started to run with it.  He added              
 that the committee is pleased that the trust is coming back in just           
 a year and given the committee some positive results.  He said, as            
 the legislature often does, the trust will be rewarded by being               
 given even higher expectations.                                               
                                                                               
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  MS. STURGULEWSKI  said in many of the communities, certainly in the          
 community that she is from, organizations are not seeing as many              
 federal or state dollars coming through.  She said, as a result,              
 there is a lot more collaboration and working together happening in           
 the community where the need is, a better utilization of resources.           
 She said the biggest challenge is how to get people more involved,            
 whether it is people in schools or getting them to help with other            
 existing programs.                                                            
                                                                               
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  CHAIRMAN BUNDE  thanked all three of the people who made the                 
 presentation for their time and energy because they have hit the              
 nail on the head when they said you do not solve these problems by            
 throwing money on them.  He said the personal involvement and the             
 buy-in is going to make progress in these type of problems.                   
                                                                               
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  CHAIRMAN GARY WILKEN  said he has been briefed on a lot of things            
 since November 5, 1996, and one of the most exciting ones was when            
 Ms. Brice came to him and discussed the Alaska Children's Trust.              
 He said he embraced the trust as an Alaskan and hoped that, through           
 the legislature, he can help.  He hoped that sometime in the future           
 he would be able to embrace the results as well.  He said he would            
 admonish them and encourage them, as they go through the selection            
 process for the first couple of years, to make sure that they make            
 the right choices.  He said the way we're going to measure the                
 results and the worth of their project is by what happens in those            
 first few years.  He said the first decisions will be the most                
 difficult as you are laying some new foundations for youth.  It is            
 an exciting concept and a lot of good things will come out of it if           
 it is handled right.                                                          
                                                                               
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  MS. STURGULEWSKI  said there is a self-evaluation within the Alaska          
 Children's Trust.  She said the toughest thing will be to prove               
 that the Alaska Children's Trust works because they are doing                 
 little things, spread broadly which can be more effective.                    
                                                                               
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  REPRESENTATIVE FRED DYSON  referred to the presentation done by the          
 Alaska Children's Trust at the Children's Caucus.  He wanted to               
 identify with both chairs' comments.                                          
                                                                               
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  REPRESENTATIVE BRIAN PORTER  also wanted to identify with the                
 chairs' comments.                                                             
                                                                               
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  REPRESENTATIVE JOE GREEN  said he hoped that in the Alaska                   
 Children's Trust presentation to the Children's Caucus the lack of            
 majority members was not a deterrent and said there was a prior               
 commitment.  He said the legislature takes these issues seriously.            
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE GREEN  said he watched a film by a psychologist which         
 said if we can change or help a child during their formative years,           
 we can save tons and tons of money because that child won't get               
 into a problem lifestyle.                                                     
                                                                               
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  MS. STURGULEWSKI  said the chairman of the Children's Caucus was             
 careful to point out that fact that not all of the legislators                
 could be there.  She said she was impressed by the number that                
 attended the caucus and added that it is a good way to get into a             
 number of these issues, not just the issues involving the Alaska              
 Children's Trust.                                                             
                                                                               
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  CHAIRMAN BUNDE  recognized Commissioner Perdue and asked her if she          
 wanted to make some comments.                                                 
                                                                               
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  KAREN PERDUE , Commissioner, Department of Health and Social                 
 Services, said, because of her position, she appreciates the                  
 members of the Alaska Children's Trust and their efforts.  She said           
 the fact that the money is going to the communities instead of                
 state entities is doubly important.  She wanted to thank them for             
 all their work and apologized for not being at the Children's                 
 Caucus because there was a bomb scare at the state office building.           
                                                                               
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  CHAIRMAN BUNDE  thanked the trust members again and adjourned the            
 Joint House/Senate Health, Education and Social Services Committee            
 meeting at 3:27 p.m.                                                          
                                                                               
                                                                             
                                                                               

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